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Glutamate content in Milk


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Most MSG sensitive folks can handle dairy if it is not ultra-pasteurized, and if it is also not less than whole milk. Commercial dairies add dried glutamate-containing skim milk proteins back to 1% and 2% milk to get the
proper protein content for the standard of identity. MSG sensitive folks only use whole milk from a trusted source for this reason. If you don’t use processed milk – you probably needn’t worry about MSG, just contamination. Be aware when you use whey that it does contain glutamate ready to be liberated. Some amino acids are more heat sensitive than others. Moist heat – even slow, long cooking will liberate glutamic acid, not destroy it. Taurine and tryptophan are easily destroyed by heat. If you are MSG sensitive, you may want to ferment foods without the dairy.

Fermentation does affect some amino acids. Fermentation creates tyramine. I know the thrust of the book is fermentation, but just as some people can be allergic to what is harmless to other people, persons taking some medications and those who get frequent headaches or have high blood pressure should actually avoid fermented products because of tyramine – it can give them headaches, or worse – a deadly high blood pressure episode.

I would not recommend glutamine intake. I would recommend finding out why the body is not making it from glutamic acid. I would see if there was a Vitamin B6 deficiency, or some other reason the body is not transaminating glutamic acid to glutamine. Chemical equations are funny things – they go both ways. If you can get glutamine from glutamic acid, you can get glutamate from glutamine. To me a glutamine deficiency, means a glutamic acid excess. Glutamine may just make more glutamic acid. Glutamine supplementation is putting a band-aid on a problem, but perhaps not solving it.

One other thing about dairy. I understand it is a big focus of the book. However, I have one caveat. I don’t think the growth enhancing properties of dairy are in the protein, or even the calcium. This is my theory – it is in the butterfat. Butterfat is high in butyric acid, and GABA – Gamma Amino Butyric Acid. This is a neurotransmitter in the brain that stimulates the pituitary to produce growth hormone. I think this is why milk supports the growth of infants of many spieces. The fat helps them to grow – literally. Because of that I can understand why in India – ghee has almost magical properties and is used to promote healing. Ghee is butterfat without the proteins. However, there may be situations where growth may not be needed – in cases where cancer is present, or in my case – I have a pituitary tumor. Growth and stimulation of the pituitary in my case is a problem. Although I absolutely love butter and do not feel that it contributes to heart disease, I do try to avoid it myself due to my condition. If I had cancer, I probably would avoid butterfat also.

Think about this – animals in the wild – ones that eat meat and milk too – don’t get heart disease. When animals started eating our foods they started to develop it. I don’t think it is the meat and dairy contributing to cardiovascular disease and blockages. It is the trans fats. So, its not the burgers – its the fries. This is my theory on this: The body uses fats as a structural component with protein to allow passage of both lipophilic substances, and hydrophilic substances. Fats are part of the structures of the artery walls. I don’t consider the cholesterol buildup a separate horrible consequence of eating meat and dairy. I think it is the bodies way of trying to shore up a weak artery wall made of sunstandard structural materials – trans fats. Think about this: The gradual thickening of the artery wall is a better alternative to the catastrophic scenario of the failure of the artery wall – an aneurysm. I learned this the hard way.

After college I avoided trans fats, but had terrible high blood pressure. In 1999, my doctor discovered the reason for the blood pressure. There was a blockage of the renal artery. This blockage was due to a kink in the artery, the blood shot past it in a jet, ballooning out the artery wall and creating a huge aneurysm just past it. When the doctors performed an angiogram, they said my arteries were “pristine”. I had no cholesterol buildup. I was also at risk of dying instantly if the aneurysm burst. They replaced that part of the artery wall, and I no longer have high blood pressure. I also think that my avoidance of trans fats is what kept my arteries “pristine”.

So, like the authors of NT, on the subject of the health consequences of eating meat, and eggs, I think they are safe – it is the trans fats that are the danger. For persons with cancer or tumors, they may wish to limit dairy fats due to growth/pituitary issues. When it comes to glutamic acid and tyramine issues – preparation is key. I guess that is my summation.

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Things that help balance MSG overload

Plan A – AVOID MSG
Many of those afflicted with MSG sensitivity seriously attempt to avoid MSG. However, because labeling laws in the United States allow foods high in free glutamate to go unlabeled as such, those with MSG symptom complex often are often unwitting victims of glutamate toxicity.

At this time, there is little clinical data to provide information on remedies for MSG symptom complex, because most of the research done on MSG was paid for by the Glutamate industry. However, here we discuss possible scientific explanations for why a particular food or mineral would provide some relief,
based on available scientific research, and reports of benefit from MSG sensitive individuals.

It should be noted that many of MSG sensitive individuals try to avoid most dietary supplements as they often contain items like gelatin or other substances that contain MSG. These individuals do not take any supplement lightly, as most cause them fear of a reaction.

Plan B – POSSIBLE REMEDIES
Taurine -
Some MSG sensitive individuals report relief from some MSG symptoms by taking taurine in powder form free of additives or fillers. The rationale behind this approach is that glutamate competes with the amino acid cysteine for uptake in the body. An excess of glutamate will interfere with the body’s ability to convert cysteine into taurine, the other free form amino acid which acts as the body’s heartbeat regulator. Taurine is the body’s water soluble anti-oxidant, and inhibitory neurotransmitter. The body also uses taurine to make bile, which aids in the digestion of fats.

The idea of taking taurine for accidental MSG ingestion is that since MSG may inhibit taurine formation, those with irregular heartbeat, digestive problems, epilepsy, vision disturbance, and panic attacks from MSG, may benefit from ingesting taurine instead of waiting for the body to make it.

Unfortunately, most food scientists are not taught about taurine because adults are assumed to be able to make it and shouldn’t need to eat it. It isn’t even listed in most tables of the amino acids. However, taurine is so important in the body, that since 1986 it has been added to baby formula because it is essential for proper growth and development in humans. Also, studies of people with epilepsy have shown that taurine levels in the brain after a seizure are unusually low. Taurine is now being considered as treatment for diabetes as well as epilepsy.

Foods high in taurine include fresh fish and meat. It is not found in significant amounts in foods of non-meat origin. Heat for long periods of time destroys it. It is interesting that the Japanese use much MSG, but
also eat diets high in fish, and raw fish at that. A Japanese meal of sushi contains much taurine, as well as MSG. Chinese food, which often is cooked at high heat and also contains mushrooms, another source of free glutamate, and often mostly vegetables, would contain less protective taurine.

Magnesium –
In a recent report on CNN, magnesium was reported as one remedy for migraine sufferers. MSG is a migraine trigger. It should noted that some MSG sensitive individuals report relief from some symptoms by increasing intake of magnesium to avoid deficiency. The reasoning behind this approach is that
glutamate is a calcium channel opener – it causes nerve cells to fire. Overstimulated nerve cells can die if too much stimulatory glutamate is present. Magnesium is the mineral the nervous system uses to switch overtaxed nerve cells to “off”.

Vitamin B6 –
In the FASEB research report quoted on our home page, Vitamin B6 is mentioned because it is the vitamin used by the body for many functions, including helping to convert amino acids into other amino acids. It has been shown that those with Vitamin B6 deficiency show increased sensitivity to MSG. It should be noted that it is possible to take too much vitamin B6 and that for those with MSG sensitivity that are not Vitamin B6 deficient, more Vitamin B6 may not be of any benefit.

MSG is a calcium channel opener. This means it can act as a blood pressure RAISER. It is well accepted that high blood pressure raises the risk of stroke. In cultures that use copious amounts of MSG, such as Singapore, stroke is on the rise, even in young adults. Many of the newer cardiovascular drugs are calcium channel blockers. It is interesting to note that, Vitamin B6 is now being touted for cardiovascular health by physicians.

It should also be noted that individuals who ingest too much alcohol put themselves at risk of damaging their liver and inducing Vitamin B6 deficiency. Because of this, alcohol use is not encouraged for those who are
borderline Vitamin B6 deficient, or MSG sensitive.

For those patients who must restrict Vitamin B6 due to medical conditions (Vitamin B6 can interfere with Parkinson’s medications), avoiding MSG is critical, as there may be less ability to deal with an excess of glutamate.

Vitamin B6 is also used by the body to create another very important substance now listed in the formularies of hospitals for treating heart disease, a substance widely used in Japan for heart health, and which also seems to give some relief to MSG sensitive individuals – the next item in this list: CoQ10

CoQ10
CoQ10, is a universal substance used all over the body in what is called the glucose to energy pathway. CoQ10 helps the body take fuel in the form of glucose, or blood sugar, and turn it into energy in the cells of the body. CoQ10 has been of some benefit in reducing the symptoms of MSG Symptom
Complex.

The rationale is that since glutamate in excess can overstimulate nerve cells until they die, energy is crucial. If there is enough energy converted to help an overstimulated nerve cell withstand an excess of glutamate, than the nerve cell will recover. If however, there is a CoQ10 deficiency, the cell
will run out of energy and die. This is a simplistic analogy, but, it does not appear to be coincidence, that the country with the largest consumption of MSG in the world, is also a large consumer of CoQ10.

It should also be noted that some MSG sensitive individuals complain of reactions to food items containing corn. Corn contains substances which interfere in the glucose to energy pathway. It was found early in the 20th century that diets consisting mainly of corn result in the desease pellagra. Pellagra is a deficiency of niacin. Niacin is the vitamin that aids in the glucose to energy pathway. Niacin deficiency results in “The Four D’s” Dermatitis, Dementia, Diarrhea, and Death, because work all over the body grinds to a halt, and cells die from lack of energy. Those with liver damage or vitamin B6 deficiency and whose MSG sensitivity manifests itself as skin rash, digestive disorders, lack of concentration, and corn sensitivity, may be helped by taking CoQ10.

Unfortunately, CoQ10 is extremely expensive. However, it appears to help some individuals so much that they will spend the money to purchase it. It should be noted that the body uses many other vitamins to make CoQ10. Therefore, a well rounded diet can help the body make CoQ10 on its own.

An interesting side note:

CoQ10 deficiency can be induced by too vigorous excercise – it depletes CoQ10. MSG can induce asthma attacks. There is also excercise induced asthma.

This begs the question – Are athletes who have asthma and eat athlete supplements high in free glutamate at risk by depleting CoQ10 by both excercise and overtaxing the nervous system?

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Taurine, Zinc, & choline mitigate MSG effects

I ran across a most intriguing site. The site from which I found this material is poorly laid out. The author needs to use a different authoring system – pages would help!! It’s incredibly long, complex…but what an interesting read……

Its intent is to discuss the benefit of taurine in the healing of depression. But there’s much more than depression in this article…

What caught my eye was the mention of glutamates – put this in the “More Information To Think About” file…

First, check out the definition of taurine:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurine

Interesting enough, taurine is an acidic chemical substance found in bile, necessary for food digestion. Bile is secreted from our livers. Here’s the tie-in to NT…

COCONUT OIL: “….detoxifies the liver, helps to build lipoproteins, fats and hormones and bile, which is necessary for digestion.” (Excerpted from Coconut Cuisine, Featuring Stevia by Jan London.)

Therefore, we eat coconut oil. Coconut oil helps promote and builds bile in liver, bile contains taurine.

MSG (free glutamic acid) DEPLETES the liver’s supply of taurine.

But again, coconut oil defends the taurine!

For me, this article adds to the overall sense I have that fermented foods and ingestion of D-glutamate (the wrong kind of glutamate that is created through a food process like fermentation) need to be done carefully and cautiously…

This article also gives me pause to consider zinc and taurine necessary to the body’s handling of free glutamic acid, which would be in addition to the necessity of B-Complex Choline…

You know, of course, what I’ll probably arrive at it, “oh, well, Fallon & Enig did have their reasons for saying ‘eat this’, ‘eat that’”, but really, I’d rather know WHY rather than blindly following.

I’m sure that’s just me, though. LOL.

Here’s the Excerpt:
(there is a lot of material which I removed…if you want to see the whole read, do a search on the page using “glutamic” as your key word – you’ll be taken to the correct position on this shockingly long document:

http://www.coldcure.com/html/dep.html)

“Like all nutrients, taurine enhances or decreases the action of other nutrients.

Monosodium glutamate (MSG) is the sodium salt of the amino acid glutamic acid. If glutamic acid supplementation is given, as is sometimes done with alcoholics, it tends to reduce taurine. MSG itself can also reduce taurine levels. The amino acids beta-alanine and beta-hypotaurine, as well as the B-vitamin pantothenic acid, may also interfere with taurine’s functions. Zinc, on the other hand, enhances taurine’s effects.

Zinc deficiency and combined vitamin A and zinc deficiency are associated with an increased excretion of taurine in the urine and with depleted taurine levels in the tissues where it is normally found.

Cysteine (found in meat) and vitamin B6 are the most critical nutrients to support the manufacture of taurine in the body of human beings or those species that are able to synthesize enough. The beneficial effect of zinc on taurine is probably why my zinc lozenges when used at bed-time allow me to sleep without night-time cardiac arrhythmias.

Also, ionic zinc has antifungal activity, consequently, there may be several means by which it is helpful…

The MSGTruth.org site commented that taurine was the antidote for glutamate poisoning.

I questioned Carol Hoernlein, the founder of the MSGTruth.org site about her point of view and she wrote me back writing:

George,
The MSG toxicity – taurine deficiency link theory is my own. I developed the theory over ten years ago. At first in my research of glutamate toxicity and its effect on cardiovascular health, most of the neuro scientific data at the time linked glutamate toxicity to its effect on the amino acid cysteine. (Glutamate and cysteine compete for uptake in the body.) I then was given an article about the amino acid taurine by a colleague. That was the link. Taurine deficiency symptoms are the exact same symptoms of MSG reaction.
Particularly a racing heart. (Taurine is the amino acid that regulates heart beat.) When I realized that the body manufactures taurine from cysteine, the pieces fell into place. I then tested my theory. The next MSG reaction I had, I took taurine in pill form. The headache went away, the racing heart calmed down, the blood pressure went down, and I was able to sleep. Since that time, I have used it quite often and always keep some handy as an “antidote”. It is interesting to note, that now taurine is being used in Japan to treat high blood pressure. It is also being studied to treat diabetes and epilepsy now. These are also two diseases impacted by glutamate. Glutamate triggers the pancreas to produce insulin, but too much insulin can result in insulin resistance, Type II diabetes, and obesity. Also, MSG is well known as an epilepsy trigger.
All these facts point to the conclusion that ingested MSG somehow interferes with taurine formation in the body, perhaps by interfering with the uptake of the cysteine needed to make taurine.

It is by no means an “official” theory, but we have had many reports of MSG sensitive persons who report relief of some MSG reaction symptoms by ingesting taurine. It is also interesting to note that the body uses Vitamin B6 to make taurine, and that Vitamin B6 deficiency makes MSG reactions worse. I will be adding a page to the web site soon about taurine, as it is a fascinating amino acid. Hope this explains things a bit better. If you more questions, I’d be happy to answer them.
Carol A. Hoernlein, P.E.
Founder MSGTruth.org

Carol’s and my personal beliefs have major, scientific support. Taurine prevents glutamate excitotoxicity through regulation of calcium and mitochondrial energy metabolism according to scientists writing in the
November 1999 issue of Journal of Neuroscience.

They clearly and unambiguously point out that the control of intracellular calcium concentrations is a fundamental process in neuronal survival and function. This, prevention of glutamate excitotoxicity, is exactly what we need, and is a powerful reason I switched from magnesium glycinate to magnesium taurate.
This importance of this point cannot be over emphasized.

Aspartate, glutamate, and glutamine, among other amino acids, are excitatory. They are antagonistic to the functions of taurine, alanine, GABA and glycine according to a contemporary review of taurine by Richard Smayda, D.O..

Consequently, Carol is correct, taurine does detoxify glutamates.

Acording to Dr. Smayda, taurine is a necessary and integral element for optimal health. Oral supplementation poses no major threat of toxicity, and its presence in foods makes it widely available to people seeking nutrition-oriented ways to improve their health.

The importance of taurine cannot be overstated and its greater therapeutic application awaits only further research. It truly is part of the team of nutrients that we require for maintaining optimal health and sustaining life.

However, in those individuals who develop stomach ulcers with aspirin, for instance, large doses of supplemental taurine may be contraindicated.

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