April 29th, 2010 
My Health 
It is my experience that most of the outrage for the bill comes from ignorant people who have been told the bill pays for abortions, or kills old people, or sets up government insurance, or a government takeover of health care, or that illegal immigrants will get health care, none of which are provisions in the bill which was passed.
So do you think that when people realize the talking heads lied to them about what is in the bill, they will support it more?
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I think once people (supporters) find out what is actually like, they will be unhappy and disapprove of it.
Does medicare have more or less support then when it was started in the 70s? Since the 70s have the prices of healthcare skyrocketed or not?
Hell no it wont. And it sure wont in 2014 when prices skyrocket.
Yes, I believe it would.
Don’t you love transparency in government?
The 3000 page bill is hidden from the public before it is signed into law.
Nancy Pelosi says “we have to pass it to find out what is in it”
We are being raped by DC.
NO!
A Taste of what the government will require you to do:
• Sec. 202 (p. 91-92) of the bill requires you to enroll in a “qualified plan.” If you get your insurance at work, your employer will have a “grace period” to switch you to a “qualified plan,” meaning a plan designed by the Secretary of Health and Human Services. If you buy your own insurance, there’s no grace period. You’ll have to enroll in a qualified plan as soon as any term in your contract changes, such as the co-pay, deductible or benefit.
• Sec. 224 (p. 118) provides that 18 months after the bill becomes law, the Secretary of Health and Human Services will decide what a “qualified plan” covers and how much you’ll be legally required to pay for it. That’s like a banker telling you to sign the loan agreement now, then filling in the interest rate and repayment terms 18 months later.
On Nov. 2, the Congressional Budget Office estimated what the plans will likely cost. An individual earning $44,000 before taxes who purchases his own insurance will have to pay a $5,300 premium and an estimated $2,000 in out-of-pocket expenses, for a total of $7,300 a year, which is 17% of his pre-tax income. A family earning $102,100 a year before taxes will have to pay a $15,000 premium plus an estimated $5,300 out-of-pocket, for a $20,300 total, or 20% of its pre-tax income. Individuals and families earning less than these amounts will be eligible for subsidies paid directly to their insurer.
• Sec. 303 (pp. 167-168) makes it clear that, although the “qualified plan” is not yet designed, it will be of the “one size fits all” variety. The bill claims to offer choice—basic, enhanced and premium levels—but the benefits are the same. Only the co-pays and deductibles differ. You will have to enroll in the same plan, whether the government is paying for it or you and your employer are footing the bill.
• Sec. 59b (pp. 297-299) says that when you file your taxes, you must include proof that you are in a qualified plan. If not, you will be fined thousands of dollars.
Illegal immigrants are exempt from this requirement, and ineligible for subsidies.
• Sec. 412 (p. 272) says that employers must provide a “qualified plan” for their employees and pay 72.5% of the cost, and a smaller share of family coverage, or incur an 8% payroll tax. Small businesses, with payrolls from $500,000 to $750,000, are fined less.
Eviscerating Medicare:
In addition to reducing future Medicare funding by an estimated $500 billion, the bill fundamentally changes how Medicare pays doctors and hospitals, permitting the government to dictate treatment decisions.
• Sec. 1302 (pp. 672-692) moves Medicare from a fee-for-service payment system, in which patients choose which doctors to see and doctors are paid for each service they provide, toward what’s called a “medical home.”
The medical home is this decade’s version of HMO-restrictions on care. A primary-care provider manages access to costly specialists and diagnostic tests for a flat monthly fee. The bill specifies that patients may have to settle for a nurse practitioner rather than a physician as the primary-care provider. Medical homes begin with demonstration projects, but the HHS secretary is authorized to “disseminate this approach rapidly on a national basis.”
A December 2008 Congressional Budget Office report noted that “medical homes” were likely to resemble the unpopular gatekeepers of 20 years ago if cost control was a priority.
• Sec. 1114 (pp. 391-393) replaces physicians with physician assistants in overseeing care for hospice patients.
• Secs. 1158-1160 (pp. 499-520) initiates programs to reduce payments for patient care to what it costs in the lowest cost regions of the country. This will reduce payments for care (and by implication the standard of care) for hospital patients in higher cost areas such as New York and Florida.
• Sec. 1161 (pp. 520-545) cuts payments to Medicare Advantage plans (used by 20% of seniors). Advantage plans have warned this will result in reductions in optional benefits such as vision and dental care.
• Sec. 1402 (p. 756) says that the results of comparative effectiveness research conducted by the government will be delivered to doctors electronically to guide their use of “medical items and services.”
Questionable Priorities:
While the bill will slash Medicare funding, it will also direct billions of dollars to numerous inner-city social work and diversity programs with vague standards of accountability.
• Sec. 399V (p. 1422) provides for grants to community “entities” with no required qualifications except having “documented community activity and experience with community healthcare workers” to “educate, guide, and provide experiential learning opportunities” aimed at drug abuse, poor nutrition, smoking and obesity.
I think alot of people will still oppose it because who wants to buy something against their will. Where’s the freedom in that?
I am not an American,but I suspect that you are spot on the mark! One of the reasons that Insurance companies and big Pharma are so afraid of this rather benign first step is the tacit recognition of the fact that with the passage of time, most Americans will realize that government sponsored options will become their only viable economic option and that mainstream healthcare will be unaffordable for the average American, except for government regulated policy.
No, it does not matter what is in it. The only 2 things that matter is that the government has mandated that private citizens purchase a product from a private company or face punishment from the government and the government is setting up another entitlement program that will be paid for by people who pay taxes.
I don’t understand why democrats have such a hard time understanding this. They can have all those programs in the private sector and collect private donations for it if they feel that strongly about it. Why must they insist on taking others money and as Oboma said spread it around. How about you spread around your own money and leave me alone?
Yes it will
I support nothing slippery governments promote and that’s not ignorant dear.
I have to be awkward here just look at their records of caring? Anyone could get away with murder under the cover of “caring”, lets face it.
And begs a question, “At what price should people stop thinking with their natural instincts to protect themselves and begin to be forced to care more by vehicles for abuse of power under the cover of care?”
I understand that people who make under $250,000.00 a year will be taxed for this bill. Obama told us they wouldn’t
I understand children with pre-existing conditions will not be insured.
I understand that medical treatments will not be available as they have been in the past.
Abortion not covered? Not unless it is deemed beneficial for the health of the woman. Guess what?
However, Christians do need to be concerned but, do not need to be involved in the arguements and hate as God will take care of us through this