Too dangerous. He wouldn’t last an hour. Remember Kennedy? He wanted to break up the CIA, “into a thousand pieces”. And remember Martin Luther King? He had a dream of equality. Remember Schiff talking about reigning in Wall Sreet??? Fuggetaboditt….
State service is cheap because part of it is taken out of taxes. Privatization is not perfect. It might be that the resources are conceded to only one firm, creating a monopoly, but it is most ideal from an economic and moral standpoint. The advantage of private insurance is that if you don’t want to join in, you don’t have to pay(taxes). That is why it is superior to government.
It’s pretty easy for the public company to compete with the private company for customers when all they have to do to get money is sit back and wait for the government to steal it and hand it to them. This isn’t to say resources are not severely squandered due to the fact they would be much more efficiently allocated had the money not been stolen from the people in the first place. Can you really not imagine a system of private roads? Less traffic, fewer accidents, fewer potholes, etc.
Calculation theory as stated by von Mises stated that without private property and freedom of exchange no real prices for capital goods could ever emerge and hence resources could not be allocated to were most needed as determined by the market. Are you saying that you agree this theory wouldn’t work on say, a national-government owned industry but would work on a local-government owned industry?
Calculation theory applies to the cost of goods based on their willingness to pay for it, a consensual decision. Many consumer decisions are based on need, not desirability, so society develops a qualitative assessment of needs that may be outside strictly quantifiable parameters. I agree with the argument to the extent it argues that one macro plan can’t possibly figure all the microeconomic dynamics, but can still benefit w specific plans. The market can still work within defined parameters.
Unnecessary projects like electricity, water, and roads?! “let it be private insurance” may be an ideological preference, but it doesn’t ensure the cheapest service. My state has both private and public electrical utilities, both of which offered service at similar reasonable costs until further privatization spikes the costs of the private utility customers. What’s another “unnecessary project,” interstates? How many people commute daily on federally funded roads?!
Sounds like you’ve got quite a sociology experiment going on there! Seriously though, even if the attrition rate does match the financial aid rate, it doesn’t mean those that receive the aid are the ones that drop out. Take me–I received financial aid and graduated, so unless I’m a statistical outlier (hey it’s possible) that correlation doesn’t prove anything. Statistically, 2/3 is close to the range within the first standard deviation.
The message I got from President Obama’s SOTU speech was:
Stop Government Intrusion and Corruption. O swung and missed cause Chris Matthews didn’t report any leg chills or whatever.
I see Ron Paul is trying to audit the fed. The progressives saw Obamas first year as their best chance to takeover HC, the American people really stood up just in time! It’s a realistic enormous uncharted prospect getting a real good look at the central bank right now. Hopefully it’s fixable, might be ugly.
well I pay 120$ per semester total.. but I consider myself lucky not to live in the states. My mother in law studies in New York and is still paying back her student loans. How f… ridiculous
This guy hits the nail on the head. We need more people like him in the senate and congress. When you have idiots like Obama pushing for cap and trade when there is no threat of AGW, coupled with his BS healthcare program, which well over half the nation doesn’t want. And he is willing to force it down our throats. What a dissaster. We have no money! Our idiot president needs to stop putting us in more debt, and reward corporations for building in the US, and not in China.
Free market does not in any way associate with fundamentalism; for God and Central Planning are the same thing. There is no market God, you people keep saying that lacks any creditable in your Science whatsoever. Markets always self regulate, otherwise people are not acting rational in their own self interest. I need a guarantee that this restaurant is clean, that the food is “organic”. This demand creates competing rating agencies that provide you the data. It emerges.
Peter, you are the absolute bomb! But I think you are wrong about ahhbumma and his lack of understanding… I would suggest that he is completely aware of what is going on and is fufilling an agenda that would horrify people if they would only “listen” to what he is and has said. He knows exactly what he is doing, make no mistake about this. If you continue to provide him with the “get off the hook” card by saying he doesnt know, then he will suceed at carrying out his agenda. Make sense?
Is this going to devolve into you spouting non-sequitors, capitalizing random words and sentences and advocating random acts of violence against peaceful individuals?
If you acknowledge the validity of the calculation theory, you are acknowledging that everything the State does wastes resources and does not align productive processes where they will meet the most urgent needs of consumers. Hence if you advocate the government doing anything, you are saying it’s fine to definitely squander resources (which is quite stupid). If you don’t agree with the theory, please, enlighten me with a refutation.
You seems not to understand the basics here.Less tutions cost means affordable education.More and more people can study.If government gives more debts for education ,the colleges will keep increasing the cost.putting people in more debt.
I thought we’ve gone through all this. You’re like a dog that keeps crapping on the rug. Do I have to rub your nose in it? Keynesian stimulation kept us in The Depression for 15 years. And Hoover was a Keynesian progressive. If you want to know how to get out of a depression, look up the recession of 1920. By every measure, the 1920 collapse was much worse than 1929. Harding cut taxes and spending dramatically and not much else. We were out in 18 months and started the roaring 20′s. YOU WAKE UP!
mickeysears – Of course the guy isn’t going to get it, he doesn’t believe in private property. He thinks that if 51% of the population says it’s ok to point guns at the other 49% and take their money and use it as they please, it’s perfectly fine. He neglects the fact anything state owned or subsidized is capitalism, but fascism or socialism.
Not at all. Once you use government to create laws and regulations that curtail some business and promote others you’re distorting free markets. It’s no secret that certain captains of industry have great influence in government policy. The Federal Reserve, a private banking group, comes to mind. Once a group with business connections is allowed to influence government policy can a socialistic monopoly be far behind. Your problem is you’ve come in the middle of the movie. Just wait till the end.
The Great Depression didn’t end with WWII, unless of course you think price controls and rationing whereupon people needed little stamps to buy bread is a recovering economy. From 1945-1948 government spending declined 2/3 and taxes declined 1/3, and look what happened, we recovered! Of course people like Samuelson at that time were predicting doom; more Keynesian nonsense.
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Too dangerous. He wouldn’t last an hour. Remember Kennedy? He wanted to break up the CIA, “into a thousand pieces”. And remember Martin Luther King? He had a dream of equality. Remember Schiff talking about reigning in Wall Sreet??? Fuggetaboditt….
State service is cheap because part of it is taken out of taxes. Privatization is not perfect. It might be that the resources are conceded to only one firm, creating a monopoly, but it is most ideal from an economic and moral standpoint. The advantage of private insurance is that if you don’t want to join in, you don’t have to pay(taxes). That is why it is superior to government.
Schiff for Senate? How about Schiff for PRESIDENT?
It’s pretty easy for the public company to compete with the private company for customers when all they have to do to get money is sit back and wait for the government to steal it and hand it to them. This isn’t to say resources are not severely squandered due to the fact they would be much more efficiently allocated had the money not been stolen from the people in the first place. Can you really not imagine a system of private roads? Less traffic, fewer accidents, fewer potholes, etc.
Calculation theory as stated by von Mises stated that without private property and freedom of exchange no real prices for capital goods could ever emerge and hence resources could not be allocated to were most needed as determined by the market. Are you saying that you agree this theory wouldn’t work on say, a national-government owned industry but would work on a local-government owned industry?
Calculation theory applies to the cost of goods based on their willingness to pay for it, a consensual decision. Many consumer decisions are based on need, not desirability, so society develops a qualitative assessment of needs that may be outside strictly quantifiable parameters. I agree with the argument to the extent it argues that one macro plan can’t possibly figure all the microeconomic dynamics, but can still benefit w specific plans. The market can still work within defined parameters.
Unnecessary projects like electricity, water, and roads?! “let it be private insurance” may be an ideological preference, but it doesn’t ensure the cheapest service. My state has both private and public electrical utilities, both of which offered service at similar reasonable costs until further privatization spikes the costs of the private utility customers. What’s another “unnecessary project,” interstates? How many people commute daily on federally funded roads?!
Sounds like you’ve got quite a sociology experiment going on there! Seriously though, even if the attrition rate does match the financial aid rate, it doesn’t mean those that receive the aid are the ones that drop out. Take me–I received financial aid and graduated, so unless I’m a statistical outlier (hey it’s possible) that correlation doesn’t prove anything. Statistically, 2/3 is close to the range within the first standard deviation.
The message I got from President Obama’s SOTU speech was:
Stop Government Intrusion and Corruption. O swung and missed cause Chris Matthews didn’t report any leg chills or whatever.
I see Ron Paul is trying to audit the fed. The progressives saw Obamas first year as their best chance to takeover HC, the American people really stood up just in time! It’s a realistic enormous uncharted prospect getting a real good look at the central bank right now. Hopefully it’s fixable, might be ugly.
Audit the Fed or we’ll all dead.
“we can’t increase our exports”
Oh ye of little faith, I thought you were a free trader.
well I pay 120$ per semester total.. but I consider myself lucky not to live in the states. My mother in law studies in New York and is still paying back her student loans. How f… ridiculous
obummer = lies!
This guy hits the nail on the head. We need more people like him in the senate and congress. When you have idiots like Obama pushing for cap and trade when there is no threat of AGW, coupled with his BS healthcare program, which well over half the nation doesn’t want. And he is willing to force it down our throats. What a dissaster. We have no money! Our idiot president needs to stop putting us in more debt, and reward corporations for building in the US, and not in China.
Thanks, Pete. I love you, babe.
Free market does not in any way associate with fundamentalism; for God and Central Planning are the same thing. There is no market God, you people keep saying that lacks any creditable in your Science whatsoever. Markets always self regulate, otherwise people are not acting rational in their own self interest. I need a guarantee that this restaurant is clean, that the food is “organic”. This demand creates competing rating agencies that provide you the data. It emerges.
Peter, you are the absolute bomb! But I think you are wrong about ahhbumma and his lack of understanding… I would suggest that he is completely aware of what is going on and is fufilling an agenda that would horrify people if they would only “listen” to what he is and has said. He knows exactly what he is doing, make no mistake about this. If you continue to provide him with the “get off the hook” card by saying he doesnt know, then he will suceed at carrying out his agenda. Make sense?
@LordCharles:
Antisemites? Alien forces?
Is this going to devolve into you spouting non-sequitors, capitalizing random words and sentences and advocating random acts of violence against peaceful individuals?
If you acknowledge the validity of the calculation theory, you are acknowledging that everything the State does wastes resources and does not align productive processes where they will meet the most urgent needs of consumers. Hence if you advocate the government doing anything, you are saying it’s fine to definitely squander resources (which is quite stupid). If you don’t agree with the theory, please, enlighten me with a refutation.
You seems not to understand the basics here.Less tutions cost means affordable education.More and more people can study.If government gives more debts for education ,the colleges will keep increasing the cost.putting people in more debt.
I thought we’ve gone through all this. You’re like a dog that keeps crapping on the rug. Do I have to rub your nose in it? Keynesian stimulation kept us in The Depression for 15 years. And Hoover was a Keynesian progressive. If you want to know how to get out of a depression, look up the recession of 1920. By every measure, the 1920 collapse was much worse than 1929. Harding cut taxes and spending dramatically and not much else. We were out in 18 months and started the roaring 20′s. YOU WAKE UP!
is not capitalism***
mickeysears – Of course the guy isn’t going to get it, he doesn’t believe in private property. He thinks that if 51% of the population says it’s ok to point guns at the other 49% and take their money and use it as they please, it’s perfectly fine. He neglects the fact anything state owned or subsidized is capitalism, but fascism or socialism.
Not at all. Once you use government to create laws and regulations that curtail some business and promote others you’re distorting free markets. It’s no secret that certain captains of industry have great influence in government policy. The Federal Reserve, a private banking group, comes to mind. Once a group with business connections is allowed to influence government policy can a socialistic monopoly be far behind. Your problem is you’ve come in the middle of the movie. Just wait till the end.
The Great Depression didn’t end with WWII, unless of course you think price controls and rationing whereupon people needed little stamps to buy bread is a recovering economy. From 1945-1948 government spending declined 2/3 and taxes declined 1/3, and look what happened, we recovered! Of course people like Samuelson at that time were predicting doom; more Keynesian nonsense.