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H202 Hydrogen Peroxide


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1. If I go to my Health Food Stores (in my case, Whole Foods) and look for H202 will it say “Food Grade” on it or, will it say “All Natural” or something of that nature? I just took a peek at my drug store h202 and it doesn’t list any ingredients…it just says “ACTIVE INGREDIENT: Hydrogen Peroxide”. Which leads me to believe that there are other “inactive” ingredients…maybe those are the things we don’t want to spray or soak with :)

I can’t tell you if Whole Foods has it or not. You’ll need to ask them. Should they have it? They would have 10 years ago. Now they look like a traditional grocery store to me but that’s another topic.
Read This Fact Sheet on what each ‘grade’ of H202 contains: http://www.h2o2-4u.com/grades.html

Yes, a health-food-type store selling it should have it labeled “FOOD GRADE”. The US gov’t requires that “food” grade “meet Food Chemical Codex requirements”. http://msds.fmc.com/msds/100000010225-MSDS_US-E.pdf

i. What that means is Tin (Stannate) is added – an organotin. The “World of Organotin Chemicals” would like us to know that tin-based stabilizers are getting a bad rap in the ecotoxicological and toxicological world:
http://www.ortepa.org/WorldofOrganotinChemicals.pdf

ii. I feel “comfortable” enough with the issue that I do use the “Food Grade”. If you can’t get the PDF file by clicking on that link, go to www.ortepa.org, to “about organotin”, and click on: “The World of Organotin Chemicals”

The 2nd grade that is “safe” is called “Technical”. Again, it is described at:
http://www.h2o2-4u.com/grades.html

i. It is described as “essentially free of inorganic metals suitable for chemical synthesis”.

ii. Can you get this at Whole Foods or any other store? No.

iii. Can you buy it anywhere? Yes.

iv. Why don’t I talk about this and promote it? Because, most people don’t want to hear all the technical mumbo-jumbo of why I buy THAT instead of “food grade”, wanting the easy answer AND at a low cost. You can’t have both. The Haz-Mat mailing charges are +$20 plus postage PLUS the cost of the H202.

I can buy 32 oz in my local health food store (which has no product identification – someone has taken a big jug of H202, refilled smaller containers, and reselling it) for $22.

It is over twice that cost to buy an equivalent amount through my supplier.

Do I feel people are not safe buying the “food grade”? No, or I would never
suggest it.

Do I feel people are unsafe buying the brown-bottle drugstore variety? Yes.

i. Read what’s in it at: http://www.h2o2-4u.com/grades.html

ii. Having worked in the food processing industry, both at a food-processing plant level AND at a food-sanitizing level (owned my own film and video production company – spent 20 years producing training/video, educational programs for the food processing and food sanitation industry), I’ve learned to
respect other people who have been “inside” and now have an awakened view as to Right and Wrong.

Clyde, who owns www.h202-4u.com is one of those people. Call him. Ask him. He’s been around the block, so to speak, has designed H202 equipment for the industry, and when he retired, decided people needed Technical Grade H202. Study his websheet: http://www.h2o2-4u.com/grades.html

i. Does he believe that “Food Grade” is unsafe? No.

ii. His beef with “Food Grade” is that often the people filling the bottles rip you off. It may say 35% but most of it tests out to 17%. Real 35% freezes at -33f as in 33 below Zero – just like the Minnesota winters
of my childhood, but I digress…..

iii. You can test “Food Grade” in your freezer. If it freezes, it isn’t 35%.

iv. What does he personally use? His own technical grade – that’s the Food Grade but without the Tin (Stannate) additive. Again, see his page at http://www.h2o2-4u.com/grades.html

v. Does he think that the “brown bottle” variety of H202 should ever be consumed? He nearly fainted at the suggestion of that. LOL. Ask him and he’ll react as if you’re suggesting we all consume poison. He’s sweet and honest.

As far as the ACV goes, does that have to be organic/raw or can I just get the regular stuff?

I use Organic Bragg’s when dealing with anything food. Don’t break the organic theme, you know?

Caveat – if you are cleaning a surface that is white, and that you don’t want stained (like some white-stone table-tops that I have), you would need to use white vinegar. You won’t have the killing toxic substance going for you, but that isn’t the purpose – the purpose is to bleach, therefore, use white vinegar.

I apologize for asking this because I think it’s been addressed but I can’t find the post. When you soak or sprout, do you just use the h202 or do you do the h202/ACV combo. My guess is just h202…but, do you exclusively h202?

You’re a good guesser. Use H202 exclusively on the FIRST SOAK (after you have thoroughly rinsed your sprouting material.)

I’m playing with adding whey on the 2nd soak. I tend to dump the first soak water after a few hours, rinsing the sprouts and then refilling with a 2nd clean soak. I hate seeing all that “dirty” water sitting on my sprouts.

Think H202/ACV – sanitize outer skins of veggies, fruits, counters, cutting boards, dish cloths, sponges, scrubbers, inside refrigerator, and especially around tubs and toilets as a mold/mildew/fungus killer.

I had tons of studies I collected one time from the medical industry studying surface contact time and how effective H202/ACV were for killing off deadly bacteria/mold/mildew/fungus. I’m going to have to dig those up again…been awhile.

Think H202 ONLY – NO ACV – when sanitizing/preparing bottles/jars for fermenting, bottling, etc. or for use in the washing machine.

i. Because I have a front-load washer, known for building up mildew, I use H202 in the “bleach” section of my machine. Cleans clothes, cleans the washer.

ii. Remember, a major use in the food processing industry is to sanitize aseptic packaging for food. It’s really good at that.

iii. ANY place you use bleach, use H202.

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Gardening with Hydrogen Peroxide

This will be the most  phenomenal article you will ever read. It deals with something as simple as H2O2 (peroxide) which, when used appropriately, is beneficial to all good things. I have been gardening  for about 40 years and was wondering why bad bugs had to have a very specific  pesticide to control them. I had been inhaling peroxide for aches, pains and  allergies and it seemed to control all of them (The Idaho Observer, Dec. 12,  2002). Not having any source to go to for the information on how to use peroxide  in the garden, I decided on the trial and error method — a method I am  comfortable with having used it successfully most of my 78 years.
The beauty supply store  would have the peroxide that I needed. The 40 percent peroxide cost about $2.50  a quart. I bought the least expensive they had because I did not need any  additives. Having no knowledge of what strength to use, I used 8 percent for my  plants. They did not die so that is the strength I have used ever since. If you have a small  garden you will need a hand squeeze sprayer. A little peroxide goes a long way.  My lot is about 100 X 85 and I use a six-gallon sprayer. I have it mounted on a  2-wheel handcart. The peroxide comes in several strengths, so the strength you  start out with is not that important as long as the final strength is 8 percent.  Peroxide should be kept out of the sun. When you plant seedlings  dig the hole and spray it with peroxide using your hand sprayer. Wet it good and  then wet the roots of the seedlings or small plant.

I don’t use any commercial fertilizers. I have my own well so I have none of those chemicals the  government uses in their water. When I prune the fruit trees, I put the  trimmings in the chipper and add all the ashes from my wood burner and then till  them into the garden in the fall. My garden is composting all year long. The grass clippings are used for the walkways between plants. I started out with  clay, now the soil is black and soft. Corn was the first plant  that I used peroxide on. I marked two rows off and every 12 inches made a hole  about 2† or 3† deep. I put one kernel in each hole then poured about one- third cup of 8 percent peroxide in each hole and covered them up. In 5 to 6 days the  sprouts came up. Fourteen days later I repeated the process without the  peroxide. The untreated kernels sprouted in 12 to 14 days. Fourteen days later I  repeated the first experiment with the peroxide and they came up in 5 to 6 days  again. As the corn matured the untreated plants did not grow as well as the ones  with peroxide. I have noticed that the birds do not attack the ears of corn any  more, and I assume it is because there are no worms in them. Birds can fly over  the corn and know there are no worms in it. Do they have a sense that man does  not have? Acorn squash was next.  They were planted without peroxide. After 3 or 4 leaves formed the bugs made  filigree of the leaves. One new leaf was untouched. I sprayed the plants with  peroxide and as time went by the plants sprouted new leaves. They produced  several squash. I sprayed the plants after every rain.
I planted turnips with no  peroxide and the bugs overtook them. I wet them down with peroxide and that  stopped the bugs. I planted radishes and  they grew bigger than golf balls and had a mild and firm taste. I will be  planting radishes and carrots this year. Last year the turnips grew 6† to 8† in  diameter and were mild when cooked.
The next year I decided  to try soaking the seeds before I planted them. I soaked them for three or four  hours just before I planted them. The only seeds that did not survive the  soaking were the navy beans. They just slipped out of their skins. The potatoes have been  interesting.
The first year I planted potatoes I planted them without soaking  them but sprayed them after they came up. I wet them down (not soaking) after they were 6 or 8 inches tall. Then about three weeks later I just sprayed a mist over them. They had some very small holes in them but they produced good  potatoes. The next year I soaked them before planting and misted them when they  came up. Last year I had several self-sow potatoes. I transplanted them but used no peroxide on them. I have had self-sow squash that came from plants that were  peroxide grown and they were bug free without using peroxide.

In 2002 I used one ounce  of 40% peroxide per gallon. Just about every thing that was green was sprayed  and the results were a big surprise to my wife and me. We had no mosquitoes or  any other flying bugs in our yard. There were a few ladybugs but they were few  and far between. I don’t think the peroxide had any thing to do with the  ladybugs directly. However, the lack of bugs for them to eat would be my guess  why there were so few.  The vegetable that has  given me the most problems was cabbage. I was determined to conquer the  cabbage worm. Years ago I sprayed the cabbage plants with peroxide to no avail.  This year I soaked the cabbage seeds before planting them. There were no signs  of the bug until the cabbage plants were almost full grown, then I poured about  a quarter of cup of 8 percent peroxide over the cabbage, letting it flow down  into the layers of the leaves. That stopped the cabbage bugs.  This year I will use  hydrogen peroxide more freely on every thing that is alive and green in my yard  and garden.

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